Let’s let our sadness, fear, frustration and disbelief inspire action. Let’s demonstrate to our children that with every failure lies an opportunity for growth.
Amen, Justina! But grief is truly a process, and I truly feel a sense of deep grief. I AM angry and saddened and disgusted — and as I live and work in a conservative area, where many of my colleagues are celebrating — I feel hate. But, I remind myself of your message. We WILL move society forward. Hugs and solidarity.
I hear you,Mel…..going through the same thing myself. But our hatred doesn’t hurt them at all….it just hurts us. And we WILL move society forward. Take heart from how the young people voted. I’m hugging you in my heart.
Hello everyone, I do not live in America but Australia. It saddens me that today I have read (not on this blog) and heard a great number of hateful comments directed at those individuals who voted for Donald Trump. To label all those that voted for him as morons, as racists, as homophobes, as xenophobes, as anti-women etc is unjust and leads to further division and alienation. I believe, that there are decent and moral individuals who voted for him as well as immoral individuals. Likewise, there are immoral individuals that voted for Hillary Clinton. As an outsider looking in, you are a nation that has been imploding for a very long time. The accountability for the US election result lies with past presidents and their policies. Good, decent, hardworking people do not denounce a system that is working. For real or perceived reasons, the majority of the populace felt despair, fear, anger and hopelessness at the way America was being governed. These feelings of discontent and hopelessness did not transpire overnight, but have been simmering for the last three decades. As an example, the Prime lending tragedy – how do you justify to the thousands of families who lost their homes that they are not worthy of being bailed out by the Government yet the financial institutions are (and were bailed out)? How do you justify to the men and women military who served (and placed their precious souls on the line for freedom, democracy and liberty) in the numerous conflicts since 1990 (the first invasion of Iraq by the US) that they no longer matter? I could add many examples to this list. This terrible mess that America is in was created by Governments that purported to act in the best interests of its people – they are the ones that need to be held to account. To take a scripture from the Bible that I try and live my life according to – “love your fellow man as yourself”. If we all treated one another in the same way that we ourselves like to be treated, the world would be a much better and kinder place. I hope that I have not offended anyone as that was not my intention.
I agree with you. Thanks for your statement. I too, get fed up with Liberals who proclaim that all Republicans are racist/homophobic/etc./etc./ It is completely antithesis to what they say they believe in- love and openness to everyone and their opinions.
He definitely isn’t pefect, but then somehow it seems that everyone overlooks Hillary’s issues as well. That somehow she is the best option because she is a woman factors in a lot. I want a woman president as much as the next woman does, but I didn’t want that President to be her. I also didn’t want the president to be Trump. And there in lies the problem. Americans have created their government and now it reflects almost nothing of the beliefs of the people. I think the bigger question is how do we fix that? Most people I know lean towards the middle of both parties, but we clearly don’t have a government that reflects that.
The problem is not with the Republican party, though many of us feel that there are issues there. Nor is it that Hillary needed to be president because she was a woman.
The reason so many people are upset is that the many “moral, good people” voted for Trump for “other reasons” than racism, sexism, etc, but that by doing so they accepted that those things were “the price of admission.”
Bush, a Republican, created TARP, which bailed out the banks instead of homeowners.
Obama, a Democrat, created the Stimulus, which saved auto manufacturing and got the economy going again in other ways as well. The Stimulus would have been more powerful if it had been better funded but Republicans in Congress wouldn’t have that.
I can’t address you comment about veterans because I can’t tell what your specific point is. I do know that Bush, a Republican, put our military in harm’s way by starting two unnecessary wars, and that Obama, a Democrat, worked to wind down our involvement in those wars.
By the way, you can google everything I just wrote. It isn’t my opinion, it is fact. The rest of this comment, continued below, iis opinion.
I get it that people are frustrated, angry, feeling hopeless, and so forth. I’ve been feeling that way myself for a long time.
But I am careful to pay attention, unlike the gullible ones of my fellow Americans, who just voted in a President and Congress from the party which consistently rewards the rich at everyone else’s expense.
Do I hate them? No. I feel very sorry for them and have no respect for them. I’ll keep voting for the candidates from the party which has and will continue to improve their lives, even as they vote the other way. That’s my responsibility to them and my country. Is that”loving”‘ enough for you?
Then take inspired action, a point of Justina’s post, and edit your comment, Sel, to reflect who you were trying to be. We are fighting for humanity. Tip: Don’t list Republican failures or tell us how we feel and how we should feel. Do the good work of creating community.
Not necessarily saying that all those that voted for him are morons, racists, homophobes, xenophobes, and anti-women etc (although there are certainly many among his voters), but that HE IS all those things and is likely to promote those hateful and damaging attitudes as well as write them into national policies and laws. I can sympathize with others’ circumstances, but have ZERO sympathy for choosing this guy to improve those circumstances. That’s were the moron part comes in. This guy has never shown the slightest inkling of interest or skill in giving a damn about anyone but himself. This is a fight for the future of OUR democracy. BTW, where were all the scripture spouting folks when the Republicans vowed on day one of his Presidency to fight anything proposed by Obama. I wasn’t hearing Kumbaya back then. Sorry, just mad as hell today.
For what it’s worth, Hillary quoted scripture in her speech the day after Trump was elected. So I guess that makes her one of those “scripture spouting folks”
Jess: Hardy, Ha Ha. Hillary is a Bible-thumper too!
I am rolling on the floor with laughter.
Snark off/ Katie was referring to those who look like hypocrites when they claim to be loving and then do and say hateful things. Hillary was trying to comfort her disappointed supporters. Is there hypocrisy in that?
This kind of cherry-picking, taking things completely out of context-type remark does NOTHING to raise the level of public discourse.
Pls dont shoot the messenger! Sel has the right to express her opinion like anyone else. So does Jess who chooses this forum to start with the Liberal crap. THAT really ticks me off. We all will be affected by this administration, liberals and conservatives alike. How about we learn that the one thing that is important here, that separating each other by race, religion, political persuasion, gender or the myriad other ways we choose to make ourselves better than the next person, are all what doom us to failure. We have to try to see each other as humans first, then as different because of whatever. I heard things throughout this campaign that made it clear that we dont do this. We all have to eat, sleep, work, feed, house, educate, love our families, our neighbors and each other, we are human 1st. This is a learning opportunity for us all. Katie, I agree with you. the obstructionist nonsense that we tolerated for 8 yrs was ridiculous! Why didnt we (American people) wake up to this obvious injustice? What allowed us to tolerate the decision by one 1 political party to stop working for 8 years and continue to get paid, go on vacation, get health benefits all while working the fewest days of any congress in over 50 years! The American people should hv been so outraged that all of them were voted out of office at the 1st opportunity. In order for this democracy to work, we have to participate and that’s where I think we made mistakes. That’s also what i think was so attractive to a lot of Trump supporters, he said that HE would do everything they needed and wanted. People were attracted to that authoritarian rhetoric, that meant they wouldn’t hv to do anything, he would take care of everything for them. Not how a democracy works people!
I agree with you. the obstructionist nonsense that we tolerated for 8 yrs was ridiculous! Why didnt we (American people) wake up to this obvious injustice? What allowed us to tolerate the decision by one 1 political party to stop working for 8 years and continue to get paid, go on vacation, get health benefits all while working the fewest days of any congress in over 50 years
Katie says
Thank you.
Danielle says
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Mel says
Amen, Justina! But grief is truly a process, and I truly feel a sense of deep grief. I AM angry and saddened and disgusted — and as I live and work in a conservative area, where many of my colleagues are celebrating — I feel hate. But, I remind myself of your message. We WILL move society forward. Hugs and solidarity.
Libbynan says
I hear you,Mel…..going through the same thing myself. But our hatred doesn’t hurt them at all….it just hurts us. And we WILL move society forward. Take heart from how the young people voted. I’m hugging you in my heart.
Ellen Shook says
This whole thing is godawful.
Sel says
Hello everyone, I do not live in America but Australia. It saddens me that today I have read (not on this blog) and heard a great number of hateful comments directed at those individuals who voted for Donald Trump. To label all those that voted for him as morons, as racists, as homophobes, as xenophobes, as anti-women etc is unjust and leads to further division and alienation. I believe, that there are decent and moral individuals who voted for him as well as immoral individuals. Likewise, there are immoral individuals that voted for Hillary Clinton. As an outsider looking in, you are a nation that has been imploding for a very long time. The accountability for the US election result lies with past presidents and their policies. Good, decent, hardworking people do not denounce a system that is working. For real or perceived reasons, the majority of the populace felt despair, fear, anger and hopelessness at the way America was being governed. These feelings of discontent and hopelessness did not transpire overnight, but have been simmering for the last three decades. As an example, the Prime lending tragedy – how do you justify to the thousands of families who lost their homes that they are not worthy of being bailed out by the Government yet the financial institutions are (and were bailed out)? How do you justify to the men and women military who served (and placed their precious souls on the line for freedom, democracy and liberty) in the numerous conflicts since 1990 (the first invasion of Iraq by the US) that they no longer matter? I could add many examples to this list. This terrible mess that America is in was created by Governments that purported to act in the best interests of its people – they are the ones that need to be held to account. To take a scripture from the Bible that I try and live my life according to – “love your fellow man as yourself”. If we all treated one another in the same way that we ourselves like to be treated, the world would be a much better and kinder place. I hope that I have not offended anyone as that was not my intention.
Jess says
I agree with you. Thanks for your statement. I too, get fed up with Liberals who proclaim that all Republicans are racist/homophobic/etc./etc./ It is completely antithesis to what they say they believe in- love and openness to everyone and their opinions.
He definitely isn’t pefect, but then somehow it seems that everyone overlooks Hillary’s issues as well. That somehow she is the best option because she is a woman factors in a lot. I want a woman president as much as the next woman does, but I didn’t want that President to be her. I also didn’t want the president to be Trump. And there in lies the problem. Americans have created their government and now it reflects almost nothing of the beliefs of the people. I think the bigger question is how do we fix that? Most people I know lean towards the middle of both parties, but we clearly don’t have a government that reflects that.
Shadlyn Wolfe says
The problem is not with the Republican party, though many of us feel that there are issues there. Nor is it that Hillary needed to be president because she was a woman.
The reason so many people are upset is that the many “moral, good people” voted for Trump for “other reasons” than racism, sexism, etc, but that by doing so they accepted that those things were “the price of admission.”
This article says it better than I ever could. http://whatever.scalzi.com/2016/11/10/the-cinemax-theory-of-racism/
ann marie says
the majority voted for clinton. just sayin.
Ohio Mom says
Bush, a Republican, created TARP, which bailed out the banks instead of homeowners.
Obama, a Democrat, created the Stimulus, which saved auto manufacturing and got the economy going again in other ways as well. The Stimulus would have been more powerful if it had been better funded but Republicans in Congress wouldn’t have that.
I can’t address you comment about veterans because I can’t tell what your specific point is. I do know that Bush, a Republican, put our military in harm’s way by starting two unnecessary wars, and that Obama, a Democrat, worked to wind down our involvement in those wars.
By the way, you can google everything I just wrote. It isn’t my opinion, it is fact. The rest of this comment, continued below, iis opinion.
I get it that people are frustrated, angry, feeling hopeless, and so forth. I’ve been feeling that way myself for a long time.
But I am careful to pay attention, unlike the gullible ones of my fellow Americans, who just voted in a President and Congress from the party which consistently rewards the rich at everyone else’s expense.
Do I hate them? No. I feel very sorry for them and have no respect for them. I’ll keep voting for the candidates from the party which has and will continue to improve their lives, even as they vote the other way. That’s my responsibility to them and my country. Is that”loving”‘ enough for you?
Ann says
Sel, you’re in Australia not the US and your holier than thou rant does offend me, do shut up. Trump is our American Hitler.
Sel says
I’m truly sorry for offending people and coming off as holier than thou (I wasn’t trying to be). I sincerely apologise.
Joli says
Then take inspired action, a point of Justina’s post, and edit your comment, Sel, to reflect who you were trying to be. We are fighting for humanity. Tip: Don’t list Republican failures or tell us how we feel and how we should feel. Do the good work of creating community.
Katie says
Not necessarily saying that all those that voted for him are morons, racists, homophobes, xenophobes, and anti-women etc (although there are certainly many among his voters), but that HE IS all those things and is likely to promote those hateful and damaging attitudes as well as write them into national policies and laws. I can sympathize with others’ circumstances, but have ZERO sympathy for choosing this guy to improve those circumstances. That’s were the moron part comes in. This guy has never shown the slightest inkling of interest or skill in giving a damn about anyone but himself. This is a fight for the future of OUR democracy. BTW, where were all the scripture spouting folks when the Republicans vowed on day one of his Presidency to fight anything proposed by Obama. I wasn’t hearing Kumbaya back then. Sorry, just mad as hell today.
Jess says
For what it’s worth, Hillary quoted scripture in her speech the day after Trump was elected. So I guess that makes her one of those “scripture spouting folks”
Ohio Mom says
Jess: Hardy, Ha Ha. Hillary is a Bible-thumper too!
I am rolling on the floor with laughter.
Snark off/ Katie was referring to those who look like hypocrites when they claim to be loving and then do and say hateful things. Hillary was trying to comfort her disappointed supporters. Is there hypocrisy in that?
This kind of cherry-picking, taking things completely out of context-type remark does NOTHING to raise the level of public discourse.
Gail says
Nice sentiment Justina.
Thank You
Carolyn says
Pls dont shoot the messenger! Sel has the right to express her opinion like anyone else. So does Jess who chooses this forum to start with the Liberal crap. THAT really ticks me off. We all will be affected by this administration, liberals and conservatives alike. How about we learn that the one thing that is important here, that separating each other by race, religion, political persuasion, gender or the myriad other ways we choose to make ourselves better than the next person, are all what doom us to failure. We have to try to see each other as humans first, then as different because of whatever. I heard things throughout this campaign that made it clear that we dont do this. We all have to eat, sleep, work, feed, house, educate, love our families, our neighbors and each other, we are human 1st. This is a learning opportunity for us all. Katie, I agree with you. the obstructionist nonsense that we tolerated for 8 yrs was ridiculous! Why didnt we (American people) wake up to this obvious injustice? What allowed us to tolerate the decision by one 1 political party to stop working for 8 years and continue to get paid, go on vacation, get health benefits all while working the fewest days of any congress in over 50 years! The American people should hv been so outraged that all of them were voted out of office at the 1st opportunity. In order for this democracy to work, we have to participate and that’s where I think we made mistakes. That’s also what i think was so attractive to a lot of Trump supporters, he said that HE would do everything they needed and wanted. People were attracted to that authoritarian rhetoric, that meant they wouldn’t hv to do anything, he would take care of everything for them. Not how a democracy works people!
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